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Re: Tintaldra TTT - Trip Report & Route Improvements We Made
« Reply #10 on: 22 Feb 2014, 10:15 AM »
Well that was a fantastic weekend away with great company. 2,164km all up; totally incident free for all participants, as it should be and usually is! We did have to contend with 41 deg heat on Sat & Sun and 40 on Mon but found out how good pouring water under your jacket works for that! I have since discovered these and may collect a couple for future use: http://www.icevests.com.au/evaporative-cooling-deluxe-sport-vest-high-viz-lime-medium-p-229.html. There are quite a few fellow riders that report these work very well.

Pretty interested in doing it again next year so am logging the changes we made to the routes, so don't have to think about it again in a year's time! From Wentworth Falls on Friday we cut out 10km and went down Shooters Hill rd which is a turn off a few km before Oberon. On Saturday we followed the coast to Tathra (instead of the Princes Hwy) and up Myrtle Mtn. We liked that so much that on Monday we came back the same way. The three new routes are listed below. I have edited the earlier maps to delete the Fri & Sat maps as these new ones are better. I have left the Monday ones there as they are viable options, but if you are up for a few more km riding calling in at Cabramurra and back via Myrtle Mtn, Bombala & Tathra is just brilliant.

Other info: There is a full Dunlop service Centre in Corryong if anyone needs it, no-one did - I thought I might (see below) - it opens 8am. The servo at Khancoban opens at 7:00am and Cabramurra is 9am, both are 7 days. In Corryong servo opens 8am and you can get breakkie from 7am. This info is all about planning the Monday departure, but the real answer is fill up when you get into town - which most didn't on account of it being 42 degrees when we arrived so we went straight into the a/c! So on Monday some went the 20km extra to get to Khancoban early, some to Cabramurra (which I did to check if it was open), and the rest of us with tourers and a bit of range made it to Adaminiby, just!

Note that on the maps attached to this post the light blue is tracking of where we actually went. You may note the circle coming out of Corryong - this was my 55km Sunday loop through & around the local mountain - as the Dick Creek Doddle was going to have the second half of the day in extreme heat, and whilst several were keen to do it we had all had enough of the heat! Instead I went for a quiet early morning ride which I found on return my rear tyre was at around 15psi. This I believe was a function of not having put on a 90 degree valve connector on the tyre (unlike the front which was fine) and they say the valve spring is not strong enough to resist the centrifugal forces if you spin the tyre fast enough. Of course this is just a theory as I can't imagine how that would have happened ....! However, whilst I checked carefully for a puncture and found nothing, I just pumped it up and rode home two up and it is still fine today - which means something mystical must've happened in that thar mountain on an early Sunday Victorian morn....?

Note to self: Try to only do the Snowies in an anti-clockwise direction! I decided this a few years ago but then totally forgot it for this weekend. The reason to go anticlockwise is simply nicer that way, especially the section from Khancoban to Jindabyne. So probably the Saturday and Monday maps need to basically swap over. This is the same sort of difference you may note when doing a lap of the Oxley, ie it is much nicer to go up the Oxley and down Thunderbolts Way than the other way round.

Also a point for those that may not have noticed it. If going the Tumbarumba way (which we didn't on account of the heat) you may note that Batlow is bypassed on the earlier map below. This is because there are a lot of lovely tar roads winding through the pine plantations and the road through Batlow is disgraceful. People that don't know put up with it; now you know so don't be one of them!
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if only I had of read this first but either way I cant ride to either event but wish I could!!!
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Shez, sorry to hear your news. There is a National Ducati Rally May 2nd to 4th at Foster, and we will figure out an intriguing way to go to that so save the date!

For the rest here are the maps. I have included the old Saturday route for information as some dirt lovers will go that way I expect. I also realise my earlier description of the alternate on Monday to Batemans Bay will be wrong as that goes through Wee Jasper which is all dirt. Hmm, but I was told it was "via Tumbarumba" so who knows - it will get sorted on the day. I only know for sure on the Saturday going across to Coryong I am not missing those fabulous Bombala roads and that magnificent Mount Darragh Rd through the escarpment.

Edit: I have figured out the Tumbarumba option, it might be a nice ride. I do know the state forest bypass of Batlow is particularly worth doing (all tar). So maybe this would be the preferred route on the day despite that the Cabramurra section gets missed...? I have added the map in to the set below.
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Hi Vince,
Sadly  :( with an aged family member in fast decline :-\ not expected to see month out, i WILL NOT be meeting up with you all on this great TTT ride  :'( . Alas i will be heading South in my other  8) Italian Stallion (Filly!) an Alpha Spider! :P . The good news is that i will have the Multi Strada back soon & whilst in for repairs my friend Lee ( Harley, Yamaha rider) took a demo Multistrada 1200 for a whirl & was soooo impressed ;D he's picking up a NEW G.T. when i go to collect mine!! Told him he'd never throw a leg over the others again!! Wishing you all a safe, adventurous & splendid ride through that brilliant countryside. Hope to ride along with you next time,
Best Cheeries
Shez, aka Supasingo :-*
 
 

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Note this topic is really here: http://hunterdog.org.au/DiscussionBoard/index.php?topic=914.0 and I will merge them in time, but if I do and people click on the link in the announced topic it doesn't work. So if you come here and read this please make any posts about how much you want to come along / what fun you had when you did in the other topic. Thank you.
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This is a reminder of the event, and we have changed it a bit from the earlier advice put out last year. We are now staying the Thursday evening at Wentworth Falls so you need an early mark from work to come along. There are 6 of us booked in for the TTT so far. This reminder, plus posting the following with NSWDOC members via their Facebook page (see https://www.facebook.com/groups/152587931479874/permalink/593266830745313/ ), should see a few more join us in 2.5 weeks time, are you up for a really cool holiday and might want to join in? Read all about it per below then grab the accommodation option details from http://hunterdog.org.au/DiscussionBoard/index.php?topic=914.msg2586#msg2586 and book yourself in!

 Tintaldra TTT (Tourist Trophy – Turbocharged!!!) holiday: Thurs Eve 30th Jan to Tues 4th Feb 2014

Because of the excellent riding and easy logistics this weekend away has become a popular favorite with many. But there is a move afoot to take a great thing and make it even better…. A group of Ducati riders from the Hunter DOGs (6 so far) have decided to ride down Thursday evening and stay in the Blue Mtns so the fantastic roads through Oberon and the Abercrombie River crossing to Goulburn can be enjoyed in the morning rather than the motorway. Why not join them and have a great holiday too? You know you want to......
 
 The Grandview Hotel at Wentworth Falls is great quality cheap accommodation, so the holiday can start early with a departure straight after work Thursday so on Friday morning we already have a bit of “ride fitness” under our belt. Then we are ready to launch into a beautiful easy day’s riding and will get to Bermagui in plenty of time to enjoy the ambience early afternoon. Check in the comments below www.docnsw.org.au/item/366283 for details and links.
 
 But wait, there’s more... With such a great start to the holiday why not ramp it up some? Traditionally the ride from Bermagui goes via Nimmitabel which includes a few km of “brown tar” - so you can say you rode your sports bike on dirt! But why not use your magnificent Ducati for what the maker intended, and take it the extra 60km to go via those brilliant open sweepers lacing the countryside around Candelo and Bombala? But there will be no dirt if you go this more delectable way - and you'll be OK with that....? Thought so!
 
 Not enough I hear you say – you want more? OK then – on Monday’s run to Batemans Bay instead of going the somewhat droll way through Tumut & Canberra, it is about the same distance to go through Cabramurra and Adaminiby. And way more delightful, even in bad weather! Whilst this is an option to decide on the day, it absolutely belongs in any Turbocharged TT experience and should be locked in, don’t you agree?
 
 Which just leaves the rest day on the Sunday. Apparently a tradition started some years ago whereby most have a rest day sightseeing, but a couple of stalwarts do a Sundowners' ride starting at dawn, through to the Cann River/Mt Hotham and back. For those that have itchy tyres and can’t abide the thought of being d-f tourists for a day, but don’t want the full dawn-breaking nutters routine, the “Dick Ck Doddle” has been created. This goes along the Murray River & up the Granya Gap, across to Kiewa and down the west side of the Kiewa River, up the Tawonga Pass, do the loop of Mt Hotham, Omeo and Falls Ck then back up the east side of the Kiewa River and return to Corryong via Berringama. It is named after the creek in the middle of the Omeo loop section. It allows time to have a comfortable breakfast and be back in time for tea, but still take in all the brilliant roads. So why not dump the pillion for the day (unless they refuse to let you have so-much-fun on your own) and enjoy some more of NSW’s finest tarmac under your tyres if the weather’s fine?
 
 If you haven’t been on a Tintaldra TT before, or even more so if you have, why not come along and be part of history with attendance at the first Turbocharged Tintaldra TTT? It is a “proper” holiday, more fun being a non-double demerit weekend, and the laid back pace and great riding you get on a typical Ducati Turismo with none of the on-costs! This is an “open ride” so there will be other bikes along to make your Ducati look extra cool. For all the Best Snowy Riding, with None of The Hassle! And enough fellow riders around to help out if needed. For more details of the TTT upgrade see: http://hunterdog.org.au/DiscussionBoard/index.php?topic=914 and contact / sms Vince Sunter ph 0414 706 875 if you will be meeting up at Wentworth Falls. See you there.
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The following is a summary of the event as submitted for proposed circulation to NSWDOC members:

(Edit 13/2/14: minor changes as what actually happened is I was granted access to do it myself so the below is what was just submitted. You MIGHT be able to see it here https://www.facebook.com/groups/152587931479874/permalink/593266830745313/ )

 Tintaldra TTT (Tourist Trophy – Turbocharged!!!) holiday: Thurs Eve 30th Jan to Tues 4th Feb 2014

Because of the excellent riding and easy logistics this weekend away has become a popular favorite with many. But there is a move afoot to take a great thing and make it even better…. A group of Ducati riders from the Hunter DOGs (6 so far) have decided to ride down Thursday evening and stay in the Blue Mtns so the fantastic roads through Oberon and the Abercrombie River crossing to Goulburn can be enjoyed in the morning rather than the motorway. Why not join them and have a great holiday too? You know you want to......
 
 The Grandview Hotel at Wentworth Falls is great quality cheap accommodation, so the holiday can start early with a departure straight after work Thursday so on Friday morning we already have a bit of “ride fitness” under our belt. Then we are ready to launch into a beautiful easy day’s riding and will get to Bermagui in plenty of time to enjoy the ambience early afternoon. Check in the comments below www.docnsw.org.au/item/366283 for details and links.
 
 But wait, there’s more... With such a great start to the holiday why not ramp it up some? Traditionally the ride from Bermagui goes via Nimmitabel which includes a few km of “brown tar” - so you can say you rode your sports bike on dirt! But why not use your magnificent Ducati for what the maker intended, and take it the extra 60km to go via those brilliant open sweepers lacing the countryside around Candelo and Bombala? But there will be no dirt if you go this more delectable way - and you'll be OK with that....? Thought so!
 
 Not enough I hear you say – you want more? OK then – on Monday’s run to Batemans Bay instead of going the somewhat droll way through Tumut & Canberra, it is about the same distance to go through Cabramurra and Adaminiby. And way more delightful, even in bad weather! Whilst this is an option to decide on the day, it absolutely belongs in any Turbocharged TT experience and should be locked in, don’t you agree?
 
 Which just leaves the rest day on the Sunday. Apparently a tradition started some years ago whereby most have a rest day sightseeing, but a couple of stalwarts do a Sundowners' ride starting at dawn, through to the Cann River/Mt Hotham and back. For those that have itchy tyres and can’t abide the thought of being d-f tourists for a day, but don’t want the full dawn-breaking nutters routine, the “Dick Ck Doddle” has been created. This goes along the Murray River & up the Granya Gap, across to Kiewa and down the west side of the Kiewa River, up the Tawonga Pass, do the loop of Mt Hotham, Omeo and Falls Ck then back up the east side of the Kiewa River and return to Corryong via Berringama. It is named after the creek in the middle of the Omeo loop section. It allows time to have a comfortable breakfast and be back in time for tea, but still take in all the brilliant roads. So why not dump the pillion for the day (unless they refuse to let you have so-much-fun on your own) and enjoy some more of NSW’s finest tarmac under your tyres if the weather’s fine?
 
 If you haven’t been on a Tintaldra TT before, or even more so if you have, why not come along and be part of history with attendance at the first Turbocharged Tintaldra TTT? It is a “proper” holiday, more fun being a non-double demerit weekend, and the laid back pace and great riding you get on a typical Ducati Turismo with none of the on-costs! This is an “open ride” so there will be other bikes along to make your Ducati look extra cool. For all the Best Snowy Riding, with None of The Hassle! And enough fellow riders around to help out if needed. For more details of the TTT upgrade see: http://hunterdog.org.au/DiscussionBoard/index.php?topic=914 and contact / sms Vince Sunter ph 0414 706 875 if you will be meeting up at Wentworth Falls. See you there.
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On reflection over the New Year period we have decided the nicest thing would be to do the Thursday evening overnighter to Wentworth Falls, which is a pleasant 208km (from Charlestown) going the scenic route. That means a relatively short "starter" ride to get us in holiday mode without having to work too hard at it. Then a delightful ride through those open flowing roads to Oberon, and more of the same with the easy run down to the Abercrombie River and nice climb out, then pleasant undulating country back roads to Goulburn, more of the same to Braidwood and then the magical Kings Hwy through the Great Dividing Range and a potter down some of the best bits of the Princes Hwy as it winds its way to Bermagui. So we arrive early arvo, in plenty of time to be well rested in Bermagui, and can enjoy the ride across to Corryong on Saturday all the more!

The Grandview Hotel is a classically great venue and well priced ($80 queen room incl breakfast). See http://www.thegrandviewhotel.com/accommodation for details and to book online - and get a dose of the history of this luxuriously appointed venue from http://thegrandviewhotel.com/history

We will arrive by 8pm in order to have a meal in the bistro (see http://www.thegrandviewhotel.com/the-bistro#dinner-menu) as we know from experience there is no food available mid week anywhere around Katoomba after 9pm - last time we made that mistake even servo pies were thin on the ground!!!

So what this means is we would decide on the day to go via F3 or Old Rd, then Berowra ferry, Cattai Ridge Rd to Windsor then Yarramundi and that gorgeous climb up Hawkesbury Rd to Winmalee, into Springwood and then Wentworth Falls, 208km total.

Those attending will be meeting up on Thursday 30th Jan at twin servos on the F3 at 5pm for a 5:15pm departure. Alternately of course just meet up at the Grandview; as long as you get there by 9pm and are fed it will be fine, we can do all the pleasantries in the bar or over breakfast! Note if you go via the F3, M2 / Hills Motorway and M4 it is the same distance (207km) but will probably be half hour quicker with not fluffing with the ferry and occasional twisty roads.
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 If doing the Wentworth Falls option we would go via F3, Berowra ferry and Windsor, so meeting up at Freemans Waterhole or twin servos works OK. Or Windsor.


I have found website links to post up for all the alternate accommodation to make it easier to sort out your preferred option/s:

Bermagui Fri night 31st Jan 2014
Bermagui Beach Hotel Ph 6493 4206 http://www.bermaguibeachhotel.com.au/ balcony rooms with spa for $160 (two left) or non-balcony, non-spa $140 (five left); 50% deposit on booking.

Alternative accommodation:

Bermagui Motor Inn Motel (02) 6493 4311 (http://www.wotif.com/hotel/View?hotel=W50380&page=5&adults=1&viewType=weekends&region=20&destination=14901 )
Harbourview Motel           (02) 6493 5213 (http://harbourviewmotel.com.au/index.htm )
Beachview Motel             (02) 6493 4155 (http://beachview.thebegavalley.com/ )
Zane Grey Caravan Park (02) 6493 4055 (http://www.zanegreytouristpark.com.au/rates.php )

Corryong Sat & Sun night 1st - 2nd Feb 2014
Corryong Hotel Motel Ph 6076 1004 $75/night, just book now & pay on arrival http://www.corryonghotelmotel.com.au/

Alternative accommodation:

Colac Colac Caravan Park    (02) 6076 1520 (http://www.colaccolaccaravanpark.com.au/tariffs)
Corryong Bed and Breakfast (02) 6076 1268 (http://www.traveloznow.com.au/details?listing=131 )
Corryong Country Inn    (02) 6076 1333 (http://www.corryongcountryinn.com.au/index.htm )
Jardine Cottage              (02) 6076 1318 (http://www.truelocal.com.au/business/jardine-cottage-bed-and-breakfast/corryong )
Mother Hubbards B & B   (02) 6076 1570 (http://www.motherhubbards.com.au/ )
Mountain View Motel       (02) 6076 1766 (http://www.mountain-view.com.au/index.html )
Mt Mittamatite Caravan Park (02) 6076 1152 (http://turu.com.au/parks/vic/high-country/mt-mittamatite-caravan-park.aspx )
Nariel Haven      (02) 6076 2251 (http://www.visitmelbourne.com/regions/The-Murray/Accommodation/Cottages/Nariel-Haven.aspx )
The Miners Cottage        (02) 6076 1066 (http://www.mcottagecorryong.com.au/accom.html )

Batemans Bay Mon 3rd Feb 2014

Bay Waters Motel Ph 4472 6333 $95/night leave credit card details to secure but pay on arrival http://www.baywaters.com.au/
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This is an “open ride” so there will be other bikes along to make your Ducati look extra cool. For all the Best Snowy Riding, with None of The Hassle! Per the invite on the NSW DOC site http://www.docnsw.org.au/item/366283 the general intention is that this is a five day ride over a non-double demerit weekend and includes a Sunday rest day sightseeing in Corryong (see http://www.murrayriver.com.au/corryong/ and http://www.travelvictoria.com.au/corryong/). So a “proper” holiday with the laid back pace and great riding you get on a typical Ducati Turismo, without all the costs! And enough fellow riders around to help out if needed.
 
There are two couples on Ducati ST’s leaving from Newcastle already, being myself & Kellie and Mal & Jenny - do I hear more, or any solos? Here’s all the info so you can decide if you want to join us. Just reply to this email with a yes or a maybe, and let me know your preference for the departure option, and we can decide what the plan is going to be. Everyone will need to sort out their own bookings – the full list of accommodation phone numbers are on the NSW DOC web page mentioned above.
 
Going down on Friday the most likely thing is to meet at the twin servos on the F3 for a 9am departure and do the 507km to Bermagui in the day to arrive mid arvo for a laze around the town. We would simply do the F3 / Hume to Pheasants Nest which knocks 150km off, then it is 93km of quiet back roads to Marulan, 98km of the same to Braidwood, 60km down the lovely Kings Hwy then 103km down the Princes Hwy to Bermagui. A grand total of 559km from Charlestown.
 
Alternately we could do what we’ve done a couple of times before which has worked out brilliantly, and take an early mark to leave Newcastle Thursday arvo around 4:30pm and head to Wentworth Falls overnight (207km from Charlestown), staying at the majestic but cheap Grandview hotel (see http://thegrandviewhotel.com/accommodation). So we are in “holiday mode” immediately, have got some “ride fitness” under our belt and can enjoy the delightful Oberon road down to Goulburn on the Friday instead of having to do the hack work on the Freeway. From Wentworth Falls to Bermagui is 473km of lovely country riding all the way.
 
Once we know who’s coming we can make a decision on which way to go to Bermagui. So please let me know your preference when you reply to this email to say you’re coming, OK?
 
For Saturday it is Bermagui to Corryong
via Bega (62km); Candelo (85km); Bombala (159km); Dalghety (231km); Jindabyne (262km); Thredbo (298km); Khancoban (373km); Corryong (399km)
or
via Bemboka (84km); Nimmitabel (123km); 10km dirt; Dalghety (170km); Jindabyne (201km); Thredbo (237km); Khancoban (312km); Corryong (338km)
My preference is to go via Candelo as they are such beautiful open winding roads around there. The Nimmitabel option with dirt is of course slightly shorter, and the dirt was good quality last time I was on it, but honestly why go so close to the Candelo roads and not take them in?
 
For Sunday apparently a tradition started some years ago whereby most have a rest day sightseeing but a couple of people really do this: “Sundowners' ride starting at dawn, through to the Cann River/Mt Hotham and back”. That is 831km of 50% hard riding and I for one don’t see the point! If people are interested in a Sunday ride (and I may be) I would like to propose an alternate which is 603km being Corryong to Tintaldra, along the river & up the Granya Gap, across to Kiewa and down the west side of the river, up the Tawonga Pass, do the loop of Mt Hotham, Omeo and Falls Ck then back up the east side of the river and return to Corryong via Berringama. (edit: named the "Dick Ck Doddle" on account of this being the creek in the middle of the Omeo loop section) About 30% hard riding and back in time for tea, having enjoyed brekkie before leaving! We’ll see how we go with that one on the day as lazing around Corryong & environs might also be pretty appealing…..
 
For Monday Corryong to Batemans Bay I figure the only real choice is Cabramurra (79km); Adaminiby (137km); Cooma (189km); Bemboka (265km); Narooma (365km); Batemans Bay (436km)
or
Some will be going the boring way via Canberra, being Tumbarumba (62km); Tumut (131km); Canberra (280km); Bungendore (315km); Braidwood (363km); Batemans Bay (422km). Marginally shorter but who would want to miss the magic of standing on the rooftop of Cabramurra and the enticing roads to get there? Not I, and I have done it in the freezing rain before and still loved it!
 
To go home we can choof off up the Kings Hwy and back roads to Goulburn, Razorback, Badgerys Ck, Galston Gorge, F3 - which is 503km of easy riding,
or
Go up the coast through Wollongong with the delightful Coledale cliff rd then the Nasho to Loftus, Olympic Pk, F3 - which is a paltry 429km, of easy riding with a lovely distraction in the middle!
Again, we’ll decide on the day….
 
I just checked the suggested accommodation again.
Fri night 31st Jan at Bermagui Beach Hotel Ph 6493 4206 http://www.bermaguibeachhotel.com.au/ All the cheaper motel rooms are gone now so it is balcony rooms with spa for $160 (two left) or non-balcony, non-spa $140 (five left); all have queen beds & ensuites. 50% deposit on booking. There are lots of other options in Bermagui and it is not really important where you stay as everything is so close; check out the NSW DOC website listings.
 
Sat & Sun night 1st - 2nd Feb at Corryong Hotel Motel or “The Bottom Pub” $75/ night pay on arrival Ph 6076 1004 http://www.corryonghotelmotel.com.au/
 
Mon 3rd Feb Batemans Bay, Bay Waters Motel $95 / night leave cc but pay on arrival Ph 4472 6333 http://www.baywaters.com.au/
 
If you have pets that need looking after to let you get away I have used these people who have good rates and do a great job: http://www.cejskennels.com.au/information.html
 
So get those Ducatis serviced and let’s make it a corker. Are you coming? Let me know.
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Which country are Ducatis manufactured in?:
If you apply the Brembos from stationary how many seconds before you will stop again if the bike has a 0-100km/hr time of 3.2 secs and can stop in 4 secs?:
What are the two letters following the engine size in the legendary Ducati 900SS?: