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Re: Auto Chain Lubrication - ScottOilers, Pro-Oilers
« Reply #4 on: 04 Feb 2006, 10:50 AM »
Until I get round to putting up a technical info page, the info referred to in these posts is here:

http://www.hunterdog.org.au/GeneralInfo/ProOilerBrochure02-8.pdf (210kB)

http://www.hunterdog.org.au/GeneralInfo/McCoiChainOilerInfo.pdf (270kB)
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Re: Auto Chain Lubrication - ScottOilers, Pro-Oilers
« Reply #3 on: 31 Jan 2006, 07:53 AM »
Yep, I thought that too - once! About the mess, that is ::) - yet it is not as bad as I expected. But not the life, that is much better. I am expecting double to triple the chain life as a result of using an oiler :D, which is useful since I rack up near enough to 20,000km a year ;D.

Before the oiler I thought I was looking after my chain pretty well, from a chain lube perspective anyway (it is hard to avoid frequent high load cycles ;) with the excellent engines we have at our disposal!). The last chain got 17,035km out of it, and it would've been shagged from 15,000km and I just put up with it for a bit. The current chain is at 21,165km and shows no sign of cacking it. And the load cycling has only got worse!

The scottoiler definitely spots around the wheel rim and downward facing surfaces at the rear, only a little more than the best chain lube I could buy, but it is way easier to clean off than the chain lube residue. The thing I didn't at first realise is how much difference it makes to have a dual sided lubricator nozzle. In dry weather the Pro-oiler puts out a drop every 5km and it takes 8,700km to consume the 125ml container. The scottoiler's container is only 55ml and it uses triple the amount with a single sided nozzle (they have recently brought out double nozzles 'though), hence I am lucky to get 1,000km out of a fill.

The idea of a pro-oiler is it pays for itself on the first chain, it eliminates that irksome chain lube task, and it seems that it will be less messy than any other system.

I have figured out what the problem was with the pricing issue, I got confused ??? about euro's and pounds when I picked up a calculator - the low price ($305) is the correct one for a change!

Wally also responded, but I don't think he really latched on to the potential marketing benefits of adding a feature like this, I hope to talk more to him about the subject - at the upcoming NDR if not before. This is what he said:

"Great idea and seems much better technology than the gravity systems, but I can't see that we would be fitting one to every new Ducati, nice try though !
 
Motorcyclists generally tend to neglect or not service their chains correctly, possibly through not knowing enough about what to do or how to do it properly. Usually they are too dry and too tight, so a system that at least looks after lubing the chain is a great idea.
 
Hope it works as well as the product info indicates."

I hope that clears up a bit about why I might be thinking these things are a really good idea.
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Re: Auto Chain Lubrication - ScottOilers, Pro-Oilers
« Reply #2 on: 30 Jan 2006, 06:43 PM »
I did think about purchasing some kind of automatic oiler, once! 

But to be honest, I'd rather buy a new chain 5,000 or so kms earlier and manually clean/lubricate my chain than put up with the black mess than an automatic oiler creates over the tail section of my bike.  In a way, not having one reminds me to inspect the chain every so often for grit between the rollers and adjust/re lube.

Just my 2 cents.


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Auto Chain Lubrication - ScottOilers, Pro-Oilers
« Reply #1 on: 30 Jan 2006, 08:29 AM »
I have had a Scottoiler (see http://www.scottoiler.com/ ) fitted to an ST4S for over a year now and it is great having to not bother with chain lube apart from ~900km refills while getting significantly increased chain life to boot. Scottoiler are the market leader, but I have recently become aware of the Pro-oiler ( see http://www.pro-oiler.com/ ) which has significant advantages, but is more expensive.

The ProOiler has been around for a while it turns out, it looks like such a good bit of gear I have also been hassling Wally Lee (NFI) to see what would be involved in fitting, at least optionally, these to all new Ducatis. I'll post whatever he thinks about that here.

I contacted Pro-Oiler for info and they sent the attached brochure, apparently they will deliver the Pro-oiler for $305, which is a fair bit less than their website indicates (about $420), not sure what's going on there. These are plus whatever our fine Customs dept do to it - if it comes in via the post under $500 I think that's $0, but I haven't checked recently.

However, I would be quite happy to pension off the Scott-oiler to the chook chaser in the shed and put a Pro-oiler on the ST4S. What I am curious about is how many people might like to have a Pro-Oiler too? Maybe we could do a bulk buy club discount thing. If there is enough interest I'm happy to go sort out a deal and put something together.

Mind you I have also discovered that the Pro-Oiler is a commercial copy of a design called the McCoi Oiler that is freely available in the public domain. It is a German based design but I have done a babelfish translation (Google doesn't translate long documents) of the main document that I will stick up in the technical part of the HunterDOGs site when I get to that bit. However, it is obvious that Pro-Oiler have developed it a little further. Definitely an option to get the benefits for a lower cost I would expect.
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